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Spring, 2005

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I'd like you all to know that USC (that's Southern California, not Carolina) was #1 football in the nation, again,
and that both my parents, one grandparent, two uncles, and my best friend in high school all went to USC.
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This Week's Musings on life

Why is it that despite wherever I go to eat in Beantown, I can never get any beans...Much less a burrito!
Someone should look into this



How I spent my Christmas break

 


The Aeneid, Books 5 & 6

The funeral games in the Aeneid made quite a contrast to those games in the Odyssey and the Iliad.  In the Iliad, at the funeral games of Patroklus, all the Greek chieftains competed, very seriously and competitively, to the point where the competition challenged friendships.  In the Aeneid, neither Aeneas nor the Sicilian kind competed, but both acted as spectators, seeming less concerned than the Greeks with a victory than with a good competition.  This was evident because of the consolation prizes given out, rich prizes to the losers in each event.

Of the Greeks in Hades, Agamemnon stands out the most.  In the Aeneid, he is seen to cut such a striking and threatening figure even in death that most of the Trojans are inclinexd to or even attempt to attack him.  He is not placed in Elysium, but is instead still waiting on judgment and is accompanied by a phalanx of his soldiers even in death, in a way offset from the oher wandering souls, a terrible creature even in death.

Questions

In Hades, Aeneas enters with a cntingent of men and the prophetess, but when speaking with his father he is alone and wandering.  Where do the others go?  Is there a designated hangout or waiting zone or Tartarus, or do they sinply find their way back to the ships without guidance, leaving their commander t fend for himself on the return trip?

Do you think it was in the best interest of the trojans for Aeneas to exchange their happiness in Sicily for the promise of future glory?  Was it the good decision of a good leader, or of a fortune-seeker?

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Julie's First Question also caught my interest
Julies question

Juno's struggle against the Trojans and against fate overall seem to me to be a parallel for many of the stories throughout the Odyssey and Iliad.  Zeus struggles with himself over Sarpedon, Poseidon vies with Odysseus, and the Etruscans fight the Trojans.  All fight losing battles and do it knowingly so, but they still fight.  Why?  Perhaps it is the same reason human beings continue to go on living when we know we all must die.  We feel that we must, or we feel that it is our responsibility to others.  Perhaps it is love of the conflict, or maybe it is fear of surrender.  Ultimately, it is what has to be done.  Those people who know and understand that they are on the losing side of fate will still stand and fight, and lose, in the best way they know how.


Book 7

I think it would be more accurate to say that Aeneas shared Paris fate rather than that Aenea was another Paris.  True, their untimely marriages start two of the greatest wars of the old world.  True also that both could have avoided their circumstances--Paris by not participating in the contest between the goddesses, and Aeneas by settling amongst the Sicilians.  Here, however, the similarity ends.  Aeneas pursues his bride with honor, asking permission, then defending himself and her.  Paris steals his bride, taking her illegitimately, and is often seen running from battle or avoiding the fight in the Iliad.  Aeneas as we know him has not cringed from battle and consistently maintains his honor throughout.


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Inferno


This image depicts the swamp of sorrow where so many people are submerged in the muck for eternity.  the scene here is much more violent and active than the one I interpreted from the poem.  The dead souls seem to be trying to get into the boat with Dante in Virgil, to the point that they are almost swamping it.  Dante is not holding conversation, but instead seems to be warding off an invisible foe--or trying to maintain his balance.  The image here depicts a good deal of pain, although pain was necessarily an aspect of this part of hell